It’s coming up any hit now, you may have just been the one. So Thanks.

For the full speech, look to the one for 5,000.

Side note: I had 5,000 hits since May 18th. Which was only a month and a half ago. As opposed to the first 5,000 that took 4 months. and Pearl, No Kiddush. Sorry.

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Oh well, if the HOSTAGE TAKERS say it, I’m sure it’s true. (sigh)

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30  Jun
Quote of the Day

“Once the people who are cool, know they are cool, they arent cool anymore, does that make sense?”

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Read yesterday’s post to catch up, and here is today’s post from Yitz, through BloginDm.


Look, this could go endlessly, that’s why I wanted to end it. but, what the heck ….

Yitz, we’re never gonna fully agree about this, so I’m dropping it, sorta, I think your wrong, if you want to go, point for point regarding everything we have said over the last couple days I’m not doing that anymore. It’s like talking to a rock. You keep defending your stance not giving an inch.

Some things, I agree with you but some points I still don’t feel like you get. If you want to fault the producers of N’choiach for not giving proper credit on those albums, than I agree with you. 100% completely wrong, still not the same thing as the original discussion on BlogInDm, but wrong none the less.

I still do not agree that N’choiach is an “official Lubavitch release” it’s simply not. It may have become known as that, which is all good and fine, but it was not an official mouth piece for the Lubavitch movement. If I release an album of my favorite Lubavitch Niggunim, and don’t credit the original composers, than the fault lays with Chaim Rubin, and no one else. You have said multiple times “Lubavitch” and “The Rebbe” used songs and didn’t credit them, so to that I say hogwash. That’s not true. Nchoiach didn’t credit it, and there is a difference.


Second, why shouldn’t I assume your attack is mainly on Lubavitch when it comes to niggunim, there are 100’s of Chassidic sects, all use some songs that have been adopted and/or taken from other sources, and I doubt every single one of them have credited every single composer. So if your using this discussion to just highlight an issue with LUBAVITCH niggunim, than yes I will assume you’ve got some issue with Lubavitch. As simple as that.

Further, never have you ever entertained the thought that the “uncrediting” was done unintentional, or perhaps sliped through some cracks, as many other lubavitch niggunim WERE in fact properly credited.

When MBD or better yet Piamenta, used that Men In Work song for Asher Bara and didn’t credit them, we can all safely assume that was INTENTIONALY uncredited, cause folks in Flatbush and Boro Park and Monsey would not be too happy knowing Piamenta’s Asher Bara was a Men At Work song originally.

Let’s just say, for a second, that maybe, just maybe your right, and “Lubavitch” or “The Rebbe” did not credit Shlomo, would it be any less devious and maliciousin your eyes, if it was an accident? No one is saying an accident is alright, but your tone suggests mischievous behavior on the part of “Lubavitch” for not crediting “We Want Moshaich Now” to Shlomo Calrebach, sort of like, “I don’t see how “they” think they can get away with it, we all know Shlomo originally composed it.”

Shlomo Carlebach deserves to be credited and paid royalties for every single note he every composed, hands down, I agree 1 Million percent, and I think the mass use of Carlebach throughout today’s Jewish Music is disgusting, and should be rectified as best it can.

I’d also like to know where you got this notion that Shlomo Carlebach was the “first shliach” as you put it. I’d like to know where you got that from. Call me ignorant if you want. Just cause you say something in a strong tone, doesn’t make it fact and you still don’t know if The Rebbe and Shlomo Carlebach ever had an agreement, throughout their correspondence where Shlomo granted the Rebbe permission to use his material. Since you don’t know that, you should give SOME benefit of the doubt. Instead you claim “G’navas Das” and fault “Lubavitch” for not crediting Shlomo.

This is where you still (not surprisingly) have not fully understood the idea of Niggunim/Chassidim and those special circumstances that you refuse to acknowledge. Since it’s not an official Musical Release, there are a different set of circumstances that should be respected.

Maybe if Zalman Goldstein neglected to mention a proper credit on his “Chabad Classics” albums, you will also say “Lubavitch didn’t credit so and so …”

I’m trying very hard to see where this line is, and define it better so that you will understand what I am saying.

MBD = worked with producer = composers = mixers = arrangers = distributors = his parnessah

Lubavitch Niggunim = sung by a Rebbe, sung by Chassdim at a farbreingin = sung at peoples shabbos tables = not the Rebbe’s “parnasah” = had no malicious intent.

N’chiach = not official “LUBAVITCH NIGGUNIM” = Lubavitch “people” who produced cd’s used by some Lubavitchers to listen to Lubavitch Niggunim

Once again, if you want to fault N’choach producers for not giving credit, fault away. I’m with you brother.

but don’t say “Lubavitch never credited so and so ….”

and if you do, don’t be so selective in which Chasidic groups you publicly accuse of Gnaivas Das.

Sincerely yours,

- Chaim

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I have been having this discussion now with a certain friend about downloading through Kaaza/Limewire for a while now. I told him besides that t’s wrong, even if it isn’t wrong, it’s not worth it these days. They are suing, and it’s just not worth the hassle. Just buy the CD. He won’t listen. Well, fine, just wanted you to see THIS.

He tells me, I don’t do it so much, and they only go after the big downloaders. I don’t even think that’s necessarily true, but I’m just telling you, they aren’t gonna stop, so if your not worried about winning the wrong kind of lottery. The kind where you get a letter from the RIAA that have won a free trip to court. Then keep downloading. Go ahead, and take your chances.

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War of the Worlds is not getting such a warm reception.

Article HERE

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I know that doesn’t come as shock to most people. It’s become a haven for people pushing their product, promoting their concerts, bashing people they don’t like, attacking anything that isn’t deemed by them to be holy and pure. Most of you know this already, I know I’ll get comments/email’s going “good morning Chaim” but through my latest “getting myself involved” series of posts there, I just felt the need to vent it on my own home turf.

Especially this guy, Mr. Yehoshua Solomon, who has been for the last 3 days, taking every swing possible at Eli Gerstner. The beating that Matisyahu took on that board after the HASC show was an embarrassment, but if someone would bash Miami Boys Choir, or Shloime Dachs or Nochum Stark (who was bashed and then defended right away with screams of “that’s disgusting”) or The Yaakov Shwekster, or whoever, there would be mounds of loshan hara finger pointing.

… it just annoys me, because that board to me is a microcosm, of all the hypocrisies amongst holier than thou frummies. I just want to meet other frum people who are sincere in what they do, and not just full of horse manure.

Mr. Yehoshua Solomon, I hope people don’t treat your “One Man Band” the same way you treat musicians. How about a little decency?

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From Lyss, this article, and yes Lyss, Karma is a definitely a bi .. well .. this is a family blog :-)

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I hate extremists, I really do, nothing will ever get accomplished by an extremist, nothing ever has gotten done that way. They only serve to incite more issues, more hatred, more argument, and more problems. I don’t care of it’s political, or religious, or even sports for that matter, extremists, always create havoc.

I’m SICK and TIRED of these nut case/yellow flag waving/out of control bochurim, who call themselves Lubavitchers do. They make Lubavitch a mockery, and it gives off the wrong impression, this is not what Chabad is about, this is not what The Rebbe would have wanted, and this certainly does NOTHING to bring Moshiach any closer.

If they find the guy that did this, I hope they put him in Jail and throw away the key. This is DISGUSTING.

I am embarrassed of my yellow flag waving, yechi screeching brethren in Lubavitch, I hope one day, they will fickle out, and people will see the majority of Lubvacitch is not as insane as these misguided people make it seem.

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I just wanted to give proper thanks to BloginDm for the great conversation being provided on uncredited music in the JM velt. It’s been real, but I’m done. As “Yitz” said and was right, we are having a communication problem, and it’s become too frustrating to repeat myself again and again. In closing, I have tried to explain to you, that as a Lubavitcher, I know, and hold Niggunim to be on a certain level that is not similar to “Liner Notes on an album” or a “song book” Sefer Hanigunim is not an official source, it’s a good source, and it’s a great book, and it’s a helpful tool, but it was not meant to be the authoritative source on what’s credited to what.

I get your “public perception” thing, but you can’t control public perception. I don’t have any instances, or “proof” as you so strongly demand always, that The Rebbe ever gave credit to Shlomo Carlebach for using his song for “We want Moshiach Now” but I think your claim is petty, and just a guise to attack Lubavitch Niggunim. It still does not fall under the same category that is part of the BlogInDm Discussion.

Dedi and MBD stealing secular music and putting it on their “kosher” Jewish music albums is 100% different than if The Rebbe did or did not make a public announcement or had sent out a psak that “We Want Moshiach Now” was originally composed by Shlomo Carlebach.

When a group of Chasidim gather around a table and sing niggunim, after each Niggun do they have to say, “…and for the record this song was composed by ….” Or even if 20 Yeshivish guy’s from Lakewood get together Shabbos afternoon and sing their own Yeshivishe Niggunim, do they have to credit the composer, just in case G-d forbid the people who are there, will have the perception, that those boys or that Yeshiva or Rosh HaYeshiva composed that niggun they sang? What’s next, saying campers at sleepaway camps after each bentching need to credit the composer of Harachaman? No, cause that’s silly. Your entire claim on Lubavitch not crediting Shlomo shows your lack of respect for the situation and for the Lubavitcher Rebbe.

The difference (again, and again, and again - I explain to you) is if MBD takes a secular song, and puts it on a “JEWISH/KOSHER ALBUM” and makes money off it, and doesn’t credit it to the secular source - that is wrong, and that has been all along what the discussion on BloginDm has been about. You throwing in “oh and another example like MBD is that The Lubavitcher Rebbe never credited we want moshiach to shlomo either” is not the same thing.

I have tried to explain to you, that Niggnum are not something that can always be credited to on an official album, or liner notes. UNLIKE your MODITZ comparisons where those albums apparently are official releases of Moditz Niggunim.

The Rebbe did not sit in his office with music producers and send a master copy to a duplicator, hire a publicist and put up posters on 13th Avenue. For you to keep using that comparison to “liner notes” on “Chabad Albums” means you have not understood a single word I have said.

So to you Mr. Yitz, I say, thank you for the conversation, and I am done, on to other topics, because I know not one of these words will seep into your head either.

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PS - My subject line is credited here just in case Yitz later accuses me of un-crediting a quote on my blog.
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UPDATE: Sorry, my brain is mush, thanks velvel. The credit is HERE for my subject line
(must have had it swimmin in my head from this post)

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29  Jun
Old Friends


Last night I needed to track down an old elementary school buddy, for reasons I won’t go into on this blog, but in the process I called a guy who I was good friends with back in the day. It’s been years since we last spoke, it was great to re-connect. We ended up speaking for almost 3 hours, about everything under the sun. Some people you speak to for the first time in years, and it’s just quick, and odd.

ME: “How are you?” …..

HIM: “Good, and how are you?”…….

ME: “Good, so your good? Everything’s going well for you?”……….

HIM: “Ya, it’s good, same by you eh?”………

ME: “Ya .. it’s good”……….

HIM: “So your happy? Famlies well?”…………

ME: “Ya, we’re all healthy and good”………..

HIM: “Cool…….. Good……..”

(shoot me)

With this guy, we connected just like we hadn’t missed a beat since school, we were quite a trouble making bunch in school, especially him and I. We got away with a lot too, smooth talkers I guess, clever about how we went about stuff, but always stirring up trouble and just having a good time doing it. It was really great to talk to him, and it was just so out of body to now see things so different as full grown adults, with kids, and wives, and houses, and jobs.

Life is really a brilliant thing, I think everyone’s life in interesting, there should never be conversations like the above boring example, cause everyone’s life is filled with stuff, maybe it just takes the right two to connect to bring it out to discussion form. Life is filled with wonderful things, and seeing different people on that journey is very inspiring.

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28  Jun
Coughing Up Gelt

Shloimy writes on a growing problem in Jewish Music Stores.

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This morning I was listening to a podcast, and the host (who isn’t Jewish) starts up about Yarmulka’s. He asked a very simple question.

Why do we put sports and cartoon character’s on something like a Yarmulka which is supposed to be this holy thing.

It’s an innocent enough question. The truth is, we shouldn’t, and it does bring down the spirituality of a Yarmulka. He further used Menorah’s as examples, which has those same logo’s and characters on them. His co-host is a Jewish girl, and she tried to defend the practice. I would try to as well, but in a way I think he is right. He went even further to give as an example, that you would never find a cross for sale that had a Goofy or Mickey Mouse or SpongeBob hanging off it.

I get that not everyone does it, and mostly I think its for kids, so you can use the “making religion fun for kids” excuse, which I don’t even fully accept, but you COULD make that case.

Still, when is it considered wrong. I think a nice design isn’t so bad, some color, something that’s not just a dirty, faded piece of cloth. Beccuse your trying to beautify it or make it look nicer. But just having a Yankees logo on it? It’s a bad place to show your team pride.

Just my own opinion, what do you think? Please leave your thoughts in the comments section.

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I think the subject line about say’s it all. Woody, I hereby revoke your Jewish privileges, your new name will be Thomas Anderson henceforth. (trying to make it as un-Jewish sounding as possible)

Reading these words, makes my heart beat faster and my blood boil.

a sample ….

“…And in my childhood, some Nazis killed Jews. And now, some Jewish people and some Palestinians are killing each other. Political questions, if you go back thousands of years, are ephemeral, not important. History is the same thing over and over again.”


Great, I’ll just tell my great-grandfather who lost half his brothers and sisters in Germany, and my wife’s grandmother who lost her little sister who was ripped out of her arms by Nazi solider’s and taken to be murdered. I’ll tell them it’s boring and “the same thing” No biggee eh?

NY Post article about it here.

Original Der Spiegel interview here.

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